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	<title>Comments on: Who owns science?</title>
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		<title>By: Veronika Litinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronika Litinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klein&#039;s book deals with the complex intersection of power/economic interests/social structures. I can&#039;t think what media, other than a book,  would work for a reasonably informed and broad discussion of these complex issues, especially given the somewhat subjective (and at times confusing) interpretation of political terminology.

If one reads the book, there is a discussion of an alternative to savage capitalism: democratic socialism, meaning  not only socialist parties brought to power through elections but also democratically run workplaces and land holdings. According to Klein, it is a model that has worked in many regions in Scandinavia, co-operatives in Italy&#039;s Emilia-Romagna region, and some evolving economies in Latin America. In Argentina, it is most noticeable in the movement of &quot;recovered companies&quot; that have been resuscitated by their workers and turned into democratically run co-operatives. Does it work in the long run?  Perhaps in a decade or so we&#039;ll have an answer... 

I thought the most fascinating aspect of the book is its investigation of how an economic theory (with emphasis on THEORY) had a profound effect on the economies and history of several countries.  On a different scale, science and politics have been always uneasy mates: from Galileo to sciences and politics of tobacco, nutrition/GM food and international environmental regimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klein&#8217;s book deals with the complex intersection of power/economic interests/social structures. I can&#8217;t think what media, other than a book,  would work for a reasonably informed and broad discussion of these complex issues, especially given the somewhat subjective (and at times confusing) interpretation of political terminology.</p>
<p>If one reads the book, there is a discussion of an alternative to savage capitalism: democratic socialism, meaning  not only socialist parties brought to power through elections but also democratically run workplaces and land holdings. According to Klein, it is a model that has worked in many regions in Scandinavia, co-operatives in Italy&#8217;s Emilia-Romagna region, and some evolving economies in Latin America. In Argentina, it is most noticeable in the movement of &#8220;recovered companies&#8221; that have been resuscitated by their workers and turned into democratically run co-operatives. Does it work in the long run?  Perhaps in a decade or so we&#8217;ll have an answer&#8230; </p>
<p>I thought the most fascinating aspect of the book is its investigation of how an economic theory (with emphasis on THEORY) had a profound effect on the economies and history of several countries.  On a different scale, science and politics have been always uneasy mates: from Galileo to sciences and politics of tobacco, nutrition/GM food and international environmental regimes.</p>
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		<title>By: researchinator</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klein&#039;s work seems to always be across the board against capitalism, but she never recognizes that a)her motivations (selling books, building a reputation, getting speaking engagements, etc) are all competitive, capitalist based and that b) she doesn&#039;t propose workable solutions for the ills she highlights.  

Also, isn&#039;t publish a book, probably about capitalism that feeds on disaster, a way of also feeding on disaster, just one step removed?

There&#039;s no known substitute for capitalism that works. Maybe she&#039;s got an idea, but she doesn&#039;t share it.  I&#039;m a &#039;lefty&#039; and support broad social programs and advocater to help-the-poor, limit-the-rich.  But at the end of the day, people can only be motivated by an improvement in their lot-in-life.  Corporations can only be successful by motivating people. Invariably her criticisms ignore the competitive reality she profits from.  

The topic of shielding scientific inquiry from political interference is something I am interested in, though I&#039;m skeptical that a non-scientist author can really do the topic justice, particularly ms. Klein. I&#039;m not likely to buy her book, but might seek it out at a library to avoid funding her capitalist anti-capitalism :)

-Researchinator</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klein&#8217;s work seems to always be across the board against capitalism, but she never recognizes that a)her motivations (selling books, building a reputation, getting speaking engagements, etc) are all competitive, capitalist based and that b) she doesn&#8217;t propose workable solutions for the ills she highlights.  </p>
<p>Also, isn&#8217;t publish a book, probably about capitalism that feeds on disaster, a way of also feeding on disaster, just one step removed?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no known substitute for capitalism that works. Maybe she&#8217;s got an idea, but she doesn&#8217;t share it.  I&#8217;m a &#8216;lefty&#8217; and support broad social programs and advocater to help-the-poor, limit-the-rich.  But at the end of the day, people can only be motivated by an improvement in their lot-in-life.  Corporations can only be successful by motivating people. Invariably her criticisms ignore the competitive reality she profits from.  </p>
<p>The topic of shielding scientific inquiry from political interference is something I am interested in, though I&#8217;m skeptical that a non-scientist author can really do the topic justice, particularly ms. Klein. I&#8217;m not likely to buy her book, but might seek it out at a library to avoid funding her capitalist anti-capitalism <img src='http://www.marsdd.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Researchinator</p>
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